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Responsible use of technologies in a FCAS
30th September/1st October 2021

30 September 2021, 7pm: Dinner

01 October 2021, 9:00am to 3pm: Working-session

Agenda (01 October)

09:00-09:15 Welcome Michael Schoellhorn
09:15-09:30 Update Wolfgang Koch, Florian Keisinger
09:30-10:45 Status of the discussions & update on the UN negotiations on Lethal Autonomous Weapons Systems Christian Leitges, Albrecht von Wittke, Frank Sauer, all
10:45-11:00 Short Break
11:00-13:00 „Ethics by design for a FCAS“: Scenario presentation & discussion Airbus, Fraunhofer, DMI, all
13:00-14:30 Lunch
14:30-15:00 Wrap-up & way-ahead Wolfang Koch, Florian Keisinger
  • Participants:
  • Prof. Dr. Helmut Aust

    (FU Berlin, International Law & Internationalization of the Legal System)
  • Nora Bossong

    (Writer)
  • Prof. Dr. em. Armin B. Cremers

    (International Center for Information Technology, Bonn)
  • Anja Dahlmann

    (German Institute for International and Security Affairs, SWP, Associate)
  • Brig. General Andreas Delp

    (GE Air Force Command)
  • Bruno Fichefeux

    (Airbus DS, Head of FCAS)
  • Sophie-Charlotte Fischer

    (ETH Zürich)
  • Giorgio Franceschini

    (Heinrich-Böll-Foundation, Foreign- and Security Policy)
  • Dr. Ulrike Franke

    (Senior Policy Fellow ECFR/Governance of AI Fellow Future of Humanity Institute)
  • Thomas Grohs

    (Airbus DS, Chief-Engineer FCAS)
  • Florian Keisinger

    (Airbus DS, Campaign FCAS)
  • Prof. Dr. Wolfgang Koch

    (Fraunhofer FKIE, University Bonn)
  • General Christian Leitges

    (GE Ministry of Defence, Head of FCAS)
  • Paruvana Ludszuweit

    (Konrad-Adenauer-Foundation, International and Security Office)
  • Dr. Christian Mölling

    (Policy Fellow ECFR/Governance of AI Fellow Future of Humanity Institute)
  • Oberst Jörg Rauber

    (GE Ministry of Defence, Planning Unit FCAS)
  • John Reyels

    (GE Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Head of the Cyber Policy Coordination Staff)
  • Dr. Frank Sauer

    (Bundeswehr Universität München, Senior Researcher)
  • Dr. Michael Schoellhorn

    (Airbus DS, CEO)
  • Dr. Hartwig von Schubert

    (Theologist & Senior Research Fellow GIDS)
  • Dr. Ellen Ueberschär

    (Theologist)
  • Colonel Luis Villar

    (SP Ministry of Defence, Chief of the National Project Office for the NGWS/FCAS)
  • Christof Wachter

    (Federal Intelligence Service)
  • Dr. Johannes Winter

    (acatech, Head of the platform „Learning Systems“)
  • Nicola Winter

    (Pilot & engineer)
  • Albrecht von Wittke

    (GE Federal Foreign Office, Head of Division for Conventional Arms Control and Disarmament)
  • Nils Wörmer

    (Konrad-Adenauer-Foundation, Head of International and Security Office)
  • Carl Wrede

    (DLR-MI, Head of Strategy und ELSA-Research)
  • Experts for the “ethics-by-design”-project:
  • Jan Feil

    (Airbus DS, Dept. for Automated Target Recognition, ATR)
  • Dr. Felix Govaers

    (Fraunhofer FKIE)
  • Bert van Heukelom

    (Managing Director Data Machine Intelligence Solutions GmbH)
  • Dr. Bernhard Krach

    (Airbus, Senior System Design Engineer)
  • Martin Lederer

    (Managing Director Data Machine Intelligence Solutions GmbH)
  • Dr. Christoph Vernaleken

    (Airbus DS, Expert Human Factors Engineering)

Responsible use of technologies in a FCAS
30 April 2021

Agenda

09:00-09:05 Welcome Dirk Hoke
09:05-09:15 Update Wolfgang Koch, Florian Keisinger
09:15-10:15 Presentation & discussion of the paper „The responsible use of AI in a FCAS“ by Airbus engineers Bernhard Krach, Thomas Grohs, all
10:15-10:30 Short Break
10:30-11:45 „Ethics by design for a FCAS“: Ideas for an operationalization based on selected case studies Airbus, Fraunhofer FKIE, DMI, Prof. Sarah Spiekermann, all
11:45-12:00 Wrap-up & way-ahead Wolfang Koch, Florian Keisinger, all
  • Participants:
  • Prof. Dr. Helmut Aust

    (FU Berlin, International Law & Internationalization of the Legal System)
  • Nicola Baumann

    (Pilote & engineer)
  • Nora Bossong

    (Writer)
  • Prof. Dr. em. Armin B. Cremers

    (International Center for Information Technology, Bonn)
  • Anja Dahlmann

    (German Institute for International and Security Affairs, SWP, Associate)
  • Dr. Jeannine Drohla

    (GE Ministry of Defence, International Law, Legal Basis for Armed forces Operations, Constitutional obligations; Human rights)
  • Marco Fey

    (GE Ministry of Defence, Arms Control and New Technologies)
  • Bruno Fichefeux

    (Airbus, Head of FCAS)
  • Sophie-Charlotte Fischer

    (ETH Zürich)
  • Dr. Ulrike Franke

    (Senior Policy Fellow ECFR/Governance of AI Fellow Future of Humanity Institute)
  • Thomas Grohs

    (Airbus, Chief-Engineer FCAS)
  • Bert van Heukelom

    (Managing Director Data Machine Intelligence Solutions GmbH)
  • Dirk Hoke

    (Airbus, CEO Airbus Defence and Space)
  • Florian Keisinger

    (Airbus, Campaign FCAS)
  • Prof. Dr. Wolfgang Koch

    (Fraunhofer FKIE, University Bonn)
  • Dr. Ullrich Kühn

    (Political Scientist & Peace researcher)
  • Martin Lederer

    (Managing Director Data Machine Intelligence Solutions GmbH)
  • General Christian Leitges

    (GE Ministry of Defence, Head of FCAS)
  • Dr. Christian Mölling

    (Policy Fellow ECFR/Governance of AI Fellow Future of Humanity Institute)
  • Oberst Jörg Rauber

    (GE Ministry of Defence, Planning Unit FCAS)
  • John Reyels

    (GE Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Head of the Cyber Policy Coordination Staff)
  • General Ansgar Rieks

    (Deputy Chief of the GE Air Forces)
  • Dr. Frank Sauer

    (Bundeswehr Universität München, Senior Researcher)
  • Dr. Hartwig von Schubert

    (Theologist & Senior Research Fellow GIDS)
  • Prof. Dr. Sarah Spiekermann

    (University Vienna, Head of Institute for Information System and Society)
  • Dr. Ellen Ueberschär

    (Theologist)
  • Christof Wachter

    (Federal Intelligence Service)
  • Dr. Johannes Winter

    (acatech, Head of the platform „Learning Systems“)
  • Nils Wörmer

    (Konrad-Adenauer-Foundation, Head of International and Security Office)
  • Carl Wrede

    (DLR-MI, Head of Strategy und ELSA-Research)

Working Group: The responsible use of technologies in a FCAS
October 1st & 2nd 2020

October 1st (Dinner, 7:00pm)

Welcome Dirk Hoke
Impuls (1) Thomas Silberhorn
Impuls (2) Susanne Baumann

October 2nd

09:00-09:05 Welcome & Introduction Wolfgang Koch, Florian Keisinger
09:05-09:20 Update on the FCAS status & technology development Thomas Grohs
09:20-10:20 Strategic threat horizon 2040 Bruno Kahl
10:20-10:50 Coffee Break
10:50-11:20 Constructive conflict cultures Franz-Josef Overbeck
11:20-12:45 Value-Based Engineering for Ethics by Design Sarah Spiekermann
12:45-13:00 An external perspective: Feedback on the discussion Nora Bossong
13:00-14:00 Lunch
14:00-15:00 “Man-in-the-loop”? Design Principles for a responsible use of a FCAS Wolfgang Koch
15:00-15:40 The European dimension of the discourse – Opportunities & Challenges Peter Beerwerth, John Reyels
15:40-16:00 Summary & next steps All
  • Participants:
  • Prof. Dr. Helmut Aust

    (FU Berlin, International Law & Internationalization of the Legal System)
  • Ambassador Susanne Baumann

    (Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Government Commissioner for Disarmament and Arms Control, Head of the Directorate-General for International Order, the United Nations and Arms Control)
  • Ambassador Peter Beerwerth

    (Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Head of the Permanent Mission to the Conference on Disarmament, Geneva)
  • Nora Bossong

    (Writer)
  • Prof. Dr. em. Armin B. Cremers

    (International Center for Information Technology, Bonn)
  • Anja Dahlmann

    (German Institute for International and Security Affairs, SWP, Associate)
  • Dr. Jeannine Drohla

    (GE Ministry of Defence, International Law, Legal Basis for Armed forces Operations, Constitutional obligations; Human rights)
  • Marco Fey

    (GE Ministry of Defence, Arms Control and New Technologies)
  • Bruno Fichefeux

    (Airbus, Head of FCAS)
  • Sophie-Charlotte Fischer

    (ETH Zürich)
  • Dr. Ulrike Franke

    (Senior Policy Fellow ECFR/Governance of AI Fellow Future of Humanity Institute)
  • General Gerald Funke

    (GE Ministry of Defence, Head of FCAS)
  • Thomas Grohs

    (Airbus, Chief-Engineer FCAS)
  • Dirk Hoke

    (Airbus, CEO Airbus Defence and Space)
  • Dr. Bruno Kahl

    (Federal Intelligence Service, President)
  • Florian Keisinger

    (Airbus, Campaign FCAS)
  • Prof. Dr. Wolfgang Koch

    (Fraunhofer FKIE, University Bonn)
  • Dr. Christian Mölling

    (German Council on Foreign Relations, DGAP, Deputy Director)
  • Dr. Franz-Josef Overbeck

    (Catholic Military Bishop of the GE Armed Forces and Bishop of Essen)
  • Oberst Jörg Rauber

    (GE Ministry of Defence, Planning Unit FCAS)
  • John Reyels

    (GE Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Head of the Cyber Policy Coordination Staff)
  • General Ansgar Rieks

    (Deputy Chief of the GE Air Forces)
  • Dr. Frank Sauer

    (Bundeswehr Universität München, Senior Researcher)
  • Thomas Silberhorn, MP

    (GE Ministry of Defence, Parliamentary State Secretary)
  • Prof. Dr. Sarah Spiekermann

    (University Vienna, Head of Institute for Information System and Society)
  • Dr. Ellen Ueberschär

    (Theologist)
  • Dr. Emmeram Weis

    (Federal Intelligence Service)
  • Dr. Johannes Winter

    (acatech, Head of the platform „Learning Systems“)
  • Nils Wörmer

    (Konrad-Adenauer-Foundation, Head of International and Security Office)
  • Carl Wrede

    (DLR-MI, Head of Strategy und ELSA-Research)

Presentation of the “working group on the responsible use of technologies in a FCAS“ in a virtual panel discussion on May 14th 2020, 10am to 11am

  • Participants:
  • Ambassador Rüdiger Bohn

    (Deputy Federal Government Commissioner for Disarmament and Arms Control)
  • General Gerald Funke

    (GE MoD)
  • Dr. Ulrike Franke

    (ECFR)
  • Thomas Grohs

    (Airbus, Chief Engineer FCAS)
  • Dr. Frank Sauer

    (Universität der Bundeswehr München)
  • Dr. Ellen Ueberschär

    (Theologist)

Moderation: Prof. Wolfgang Koch (Fraunhofer FKIE) and Florian Keisinger (Airbus)

Kick-off meeting,
Sept. 26th 2019, in Bad Aibling

10:00-10:15 Begrüßung und Vorstellung der Teilnehmer alle
10:15-10:30 Ideenskizze zur Initiative Wolfgang Koch, Florian Keisinger, Yvonne Hofstetter
10:30-11:15 Einführung in FCAS, v.a. mit Blick auf die Anwendung neuer Technologien Thomas Grohs
11:15-12:00 FCAS aus Sicht des Kunden – Bedarfe und Anforderungen Oberst Jörg Rauber
12:00-13:00 Mittagessen
13:00-13:45 Geopolitische Dimension, Europa als Akteur in der Welt Prof. Dr. Ulrich Menzel
13:45-14:30 Völkerrechtliche Perspektive Prof. Dr. Helmut Aust
14:30-14:45 Kaffeepause
14:45-15:30 Ethische Dimension – wo sind die Grenzen beim Einsatz neuer Technologien? Dr. Ellen Ueberschär
15:30-16:00 Erwartungsabgleich Arbeitsgruppe Ethik & Technikverantwortung bei FCAS und weiteres Vorgehen alle
  • Prof. Dr. Helmut Aust

    (FU Berlin, Völkerrecht & Internationalisierung d. Rechtsordnung)
  • Marco Fey

    (BMVg, Rüstungskontrolle Neue Technologien)
  • Bruno Fichefeux

    (Airbus, Programmleiter FCAS)
  • Dr. Ulrike Franke

    (Senior Policy Fellow ECFR/Governance of AI Fellow Future of Humanity Institute)
  • General Gerald Funke

    (BMVg, Projektleiter FCAS)
  • Dr. Dennis Göge

    (DLR, Leiter Sicherheitsforschung)
  • Thomas Grohs

    (Airbus, Chef-Ingenieur FCAS)
  • Yvonne Hofstetter

    (Juristin, IT-Unternehmerin, Autorin)
  • Florian Keisinger

    (Airbus, Kampagne FCAS)
  • Prof. Dr. Wolfgang Koch

    (Fraunhofer FKIE)
  • Dr. Ulrich Kühn

    (Rüstungskontrolle und Neue Technologien, Institut für Friedensforschung und Sicherheitspolitik an der Universität Hamburg)
  • Prof. em. Dr. Ulrich Menzel

    (TU Braunschweig, Internationale Beziehungen)
  • Dr. Christian Mölling

    (Stellvertretender Direktor DGAP)
  • Dr. Ulrich Pohlmann

    (BMVg, Maßnahmen vernetzter Sicherheitspolitik, Wissenschaft & Gesellschaft)
  • Oberst Jörg Rauber

    (BMVg, Planung FCAS)
  • John Reyels

    (Auswärtiges Amt, Konventionelle Abrüstung und Rüstungskontrolle)
  • Dr. Frank Sauer

    (Universität der Bundeswehr München, Senior Researcher)
  • Michael Teichmann

    (BMVg, Völkerrecht, Rechtsgrundlagen der Einsätze der Bundeswehr, verfassungsrechtlicher Bezüge; Menschenrechte)
  • Dr. Ellen Ueberschär

    (Theologin)
  • Dr. Emmeram Weis

    (BND, Mitarbeiter Leitungsstab)
  • Dr. Johannes Winter

    (acatech, Leiter Plattform „Lernende Systeme“)